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D: In the book "Who am 'I'?" You have said that the heart is the seat of the mind. Is it so?
R: The mind is the Atman.
D: Is it Atman itself or its projection?
R: The same.
One could also refer to Ramana's instructions to Gambhiram Seshier, at the beginning of the twentieth century. He told him "Mind is in reality only consciousness, because it is pure and transparent by nature. It is spacious, unitary."
The mind with which we are now functioning is constantly pestered with wanted and unwanted thoughts. Memories of the past sensate experiences sow tendencies which give directional pulls. Sometimes that which one calls "My mind" is very much out of one's control in the sense that one is unable to ward off unwanted thoughts or one is caught up with obsessive thoughts. Therefore methods are sought for bringing the mind under control, to hold it in check.
Does
it
mean
that
each
individual
has
two
minds?
One
the
limited,
distracted
one
and
the
other
integral,
unitary
and
totally
attentive?
The
answer
is
clearly
'No'.
The
mind
is
always
pure
like
ether.
Just
as
the
atmospheric
pollutions
do
not
effect
the
ether
which
remains
unpolluted
so
too
the
pollution
of
the
mind
due
to
its
distractions
and
experience
of
the
past
will
not
change
the
essential
characteristic
of
the
mind
which
is
always
pure.
Once
the
habitual
outwardness
of
the
mind
is
tackled
appropriately,
then
the
present
desire
and
fear
complex
of
the
mind
will
drop
automatically.
In order to go to the root of the matter one has to remove certain false or incorrect notions. When troubled by too many thoughts one may think that the goal to be achieved is a thought free state. On the one hand people desire it and on the other they fear it because they think that they do not have an experience of our natural state and are consequently afraid of it. We find this kind of doubt and fear in some of the questions which were put to Ramana.
D: Can we think without the mind?
R: Thoughts may be like any other activities, not disturbing the consciousness.
D: I know that one can think remaining forgetful of the physical body. Is it possible to gain that consciousness which is beyond thoughts?
R: Yes there is one consciousness. It subsists in the waking, sleep and dream states. If it is known you will be aware of that which is beyond thoughts. The same nagging doubt is seen in questions like 'Does a Jnani have thoughts?'
Here one would notice that the worry is about thoughts and not about the power to have them which is really the crux. For there is a mix up between a thought void and a thought free mind, which is the opposite of the uncontrolled mind. The essential question about the nature of the mind is not even posed.
To Be Continued
About
the
author
Sri
A.R.Natarajan
has
had
the
opportunity
of
a
long
association
of
over
50
years
with
the
Ramanashram.
He
was
the
editor
of
"Mountain
Path"
for
two
years.
He
was
the
secretary
of
Ramana
Kendra,
New
Delhi
for
ten
years.
He
founded
the
Ramana
Maharshi
centre
for
learning,
a
non
profit
institution.
He
has
authored
more
than
thirty
six
books
and
eleven
pocket
books
on
the
life
and
teachings
of
Bhagavan
Ramana.
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